Old World
There is one argument that has laid dormant for a few weeks that I am now going to reawaken. The old world argument. How is the old world from the old server going to be used in the new server?Just so you guys know, I have all the worlds backed up but I believe that you may have lost 3 days. Also, now that since we are completely remaking the server, some of the plugins you relied on in your builds won't be working. A major plugin will be grief prevention. You will simply have to reclaim all your land if we chose to keep the old world.
1. Scrap it completely: This would give the server a complete, clean restart. However, I don't quite like it because a lot of us have worked very hard on the world just to have it be thrown away.
2. Use it as the main world: On the other side, we could just keep it as it is and basically just transfer it over. Problem with this, the world is massive. On dynmap, you couldn't even fit the world on the screen (at least mine that is). Also, with all the plugin changes, many of the functions the world had would no longer be working. And to be honest, the world is a bit messy, mostly because it is so large that there is so much empty space.
3. Reinvent the world: Here we would use the world for something else, such as making it a massive battlefield (see Ferf's comment). This could offer an amazing challenge and fun way to play together. I am neutral on this position because I love the idea of massive battles but I know some don't want to just leave their amazing creations.
4. Use it as a side world: If we choose this, the world would not be the main world. That means that the spawn would not be located there, all admin/build team work would not be done there, etc. This would be the legacy world. This world would stay survival, and those of you who don't want to start over in the brand new worlds could still build here, though I highly suggest it because I hope the new worlds will be amazing. To go even more extreme, only Legendary (you guys) could build in the world and anyone else could only visit.
5. Your own ideas
Go ahead and tell me what you guys think should be done to the old world. Personally, I support option 4, with option 3 coming at a close second.
Wait...
"Wait a second, in the last post you told us you would post about what our server and worlds would be like. This post had nothing to do with that. Why?"Because I spent about an hour looking at possible forum solutions so now it is really late for me. By the time I finished typing the old world arguments, it was getting even more late. Also, this post is pretty good on its own and a post shouldn't have too much going on or some of it won't be focused or commented on. While I won't promise daily posts, I do plan to write a lot more of these short posts, ranging from multiple ones a day to one a week.
Imagine, this is a really long post, but I wanted to get all my ideas out before I forgot them :P.
ReplyDeleteFor the old world, I propose we World Edit the buildings that show an obvious amount of effort put into them. However, I would not support bringing over items. Now, the amount of valuables we have accumulated in this world is simply preposterous. The shops are absolutely insane with their pricing(64 XP bottles for $240 I believe). Not to mention all the cash exploits that have been found and utilized. I feel that people who have put great efforts into their creations should have them moved(And when I suggest this, I don't mean the entire base, I simply mean the main structure e.g., Smart's Castle and only the castle, not the farms/mob things). Basically, you start over, except you have a house already made.
Now, onto the world ideas:
I had the idea that we could have some form of underwater city world, kinda like Rapture in Bioshock. I think if we had that as some form of main world/area that would really set apart the server. A large world with different explorable areas would be fun in my opinion (Underwater city, large mountain range, puzzle mines, etc...)
In addition to that, I really enjoyed the boats and towns we had in the first map(Solitude, Inville). Granted, they were VERY cheated, but I felt that they added a new thing for us to do when we were bored. Perhaps we could have a survival world that has a pre-built town area and base, just to get everyone started. For example, a 4 building village with a small fort. This would get things going and players could build kingdoms and "attack" other kingdoms.
About plugins, I suggest MCMMO and Factions.
These are my suggestions and I would love to help building some of the new worlds and additions!
About the old world, I do like the idea of WE everything, however that is a lot of work. Also, where would we put them, because some of the important buildings were built specifically for that terrain. That is why I propose the side world plan, where it would let you go back there almost the same. It would be a bit different because items and insane pricing would be gone. However, this way those who want to stick with the old can.
DeleteAbout the world ideas, I will make a post on this soon. However, still answer them.
A bunch of hand-made, custom generated worlds were in my head, too. Underwater city could definitely be one of them! That is one reason why I plan on a completely new main world, one that will be the best ever!
I do plan on making the main world have a pre-built city where you can live if you want and it is where you find all the worlds and such. Perhaps we could allow people to attack other kingdoms, but it would depend on the world theme (more on that later).
Thanks for the suggestions. However, we may use those for other servers since the main server may be more on the Choconilla flavor and McMMO is a roleplaying plugin and Factions is good for pvp wars.
I would definitely appreciate your help in helping me build. In fact, I was planning on making a post on jobs people could take, and perhaps you could be the Chief of Building. You basically would have all building permissions and have access to under construction worlds where only you, me, and other builders could go there to work on building it.
Man, so much to do ;)
I am already living underwater :P
DeleteI think we should have the old world as a side world on the server. We can make it better and improve it before doing this. I think it would be nice for everyone to see what the Imagine Nation did in the past.
ReplyDeleteI think, like everyone else here says, make the old world a side-world. We should restart the main world.
ReplyDeleteAlso, this is a non-edited copy/paste of my comment in the last post...
The way I see it, we should have a "wilderness survival world", where everyone is thrown in the wilderness, pvp is on, griefing is allowed and its basically a huge free-for-all. :P
Then, a more civilized world, with Towny or Factions, where griefing and PvP are off.
Then, a PvP world. This could include arenas and an auto-resetting battle ground (I'm thinking of Bane's big PvP idea there, but I don't remember what it was called...).
Then, a creative world (for this, it will be crucial to have MultiInv set up) for the more creative people who don't feel like starting from the ground up.
Sacha862
Like your ideas. I will think about them when I make my worlds post. I just some more time to think on what everyone wants and what I want. Then I give my opinion on your ideas. Sorry for continuing to put your comment off for later.
DeleteRestarting The Main World When We Go Public
ReplyDeleteWe have a great world for the Imagine Nation. Players have come on the server a lot already to help make it the great place it is. We have worked hard to create the best server world for the Imagine Nation. However, it's possible that we may be restarting the world again when we go public. I don't think we should restart the world because we have done all of this hard work already, having to re-do everything may be hard for some people who really enjoy the server, and other players who come on will probably like it the way it is right now.
To begin with, we have done hard work already to make the world great for the Imagine Nation server. Players have come on many times working hard to build many of the great creations that already exist. For instance, ~Builder made the Nexus Tower better after ~Smart and I built the main design for it, and it looks amazing. In addition, it's taken a while for us to get all the reserves we have in survival mode. Restarting the world means doing this again. All of our hard work will be lost if we restart the world when we go public.
Next, re-doing all of our hard work will be hard for some people. Some players on the server come on a lot and work hard to build things and collect resources in survival mode. Consequently, starting a new world will cause them to have to re-build their creations and gather supplies again. It isn't necessary to do all of this again after we've already worked so hard. Finally, it wouldn't be fair to players if they had to re-do their hard effort again.
Third, players who come on the server when we go public will probably like the world the way it is right now. We have a great world with lots of great structures. For example, the Nexus Tower was built mostly by ~Builder who made it much better and a great spawn location for the world. In addition, some players have made their great personal creations like ~Smart's castle. Finally, starting a new world isn't necessary if players coming on will like it the way it is.
The world we have for the server is already great, but we can still make it better. We don't need to start a new world because our hard effort has already paid off by giving us a great server for the Imagine Nation. In addition, a new world will cause some of our players to be annoyed by having to do their hard work again. Although restarting the world may make the server better than it is already, players who come on when we go public will probably like the server exactly as it is. We should not restart our world because going through this tedious work again is absolutely ludicrous!
Yes, restarting the world is very hard. However, I do want to remind you that we don't plan on removing the world. My main proposal is keeping the world, but make it a side world. This simply means you don't spawn there and more administrative work will be done to other worlds. There is also the proposal of World Editing everything out.
DeleteAlso, the world will be broken when we use it again. Many plugins it depended on will no longer work. It is way to massive as well, and without a border it is the perfect griefer plan on lagging the server by loading chunks 200,000 blocks away.
Instead, we use it is as a side world. If you don't want to start over, that is ok. You can stay there. However, I plan for the main world to be really amazing. Since I plan on it being 100% custom made, it will be unlike anything you have seen in Minecraft. To get a glimpse at what I mean, go to these links:
http://massivecraft.com/
http://map.massivecraft.com/
This is MassiveCraft, the people who MAKE Factions. This is an example of a big Roleplaying server which is really awesome and I have been getting a lot of inspiration from. If you want to understand what I hope to accomplish with the worlds, look at how detailed the online map is or, even better, go in-game. Explore the world and see how well the build team has created the terrain, all 100% custom made. This is the kind of world I want.
I'm already starting over so I guess I'll start in the new world. I had stuff in the old world that I'm not keeping. I don't mind having to start a new world but I was thinking about how others would feel when I wrote that 5 paragraph persuasive essay to try and persuade the Imagine Nation to continue using the current world as the main world.
DeleteGot the account thingy set up. I would really prefer to keep our current world as main survival.
ReplyDelete-Smart
Glad you got an account.
DeleteOk, I will think about. Reason I don't like that is because it is messy (broken plugins) and very huge. I was planning for the main world to be a custom, hand-made world that is unlike any default minecraft world.
We could do that, but we would have to WE in and terraform main buildings (eg. My castle, Nexus Tower)
Delete-Smart
Or, like Build said, we simply WE the most important structures into the new world.
ReplyDeleteSacha862
Does that include the Nexus Tower and ~Smart's castle ?
DeleteBy that I mean the Tower, Hallowdin, Smart's castle and every other important structure. We can even copy the prison if we really wanted to.
DeleteSacha862
What is the prison ?
DeleteI'm glad that you agree. I spent at least 20 minutes writing that persuasive essay, stating my opinion and giving specific examples of why we should keep the current world as our main world.
ReplyDeleteI am sorry making a google account was tough. However, I think it is worth is so people can't pretend to be you or anyone else.
ReplyDeleteNow you know how I feel. Each post takes 1-2 hours to do :P
ReplyDeleteKinda off topic, but I was wondering when the server would be back up?
ReplyDeleteOK...I Just signed up for one of these dumb accounts and I'd like to say a few things
ReplyDeleteFirst off...about our world:
I really would like to keep our current world either as a main planet or as a side world...but it should be open to everyone as many people have taken great strides to make so many structures for new guests that no one would possibly World Edit them into a new world. I suggest that we also run a re-boot world on the side in order to keep those who want to re-start happy. I mean...there is no reason why we can't run both.
On the Potential Item Reset:
I REALLY don't think that's a good idea. I mean, people have worked hard to get a lot of stuff in the world and taking it away from them would just be cruel. I say no to this, but I do say that we should reset server cash.
To Sum up:
Keep this world either as main or side that's open to the public.
Keep our stuff.
Reset Server Cash.
Comment as you wish.
CAPTAINZACH